So, it has been on my radar screen, but in the last few days, it has moved onto my screen and now takes over about 80-90% of it, with my viewing of three videos, most consequentially this one by Dr. Stephen Sizer: http://vimeo.com/29738567 . But the two that proceeded it for me this week also were huge: First I came across: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO6VpMYAVms , and with some follow-on research to delve deeper into Alison Weir's work than I'd gone before here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_5iOYsHFQ .
WHAT HELP DO I NEED FROM YOU DEAR FRIENDS?
1. IS IT NOT TRUE THAT
a. IF WE DON'T STOP THE CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS WE WON'T FREE PALESTINE?
b. CHRISTIAN ZIONISM IS / ZIONISTS ARE 80% OF THE PROBLEM TO BE OVERCOME? (Pretty unlikely to solve a problem if we don't accurately diagnose what the problem is.)
2. IF I am correct in this assessment...
a. what resources can you point me to regarding situation, and MOST IMPORTANTLY - STRATEGY! and
b. IF THIS IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM... WHY IS NO ONE SEEMINGLY TALKING ABOUT IT?!?!??!!?!?
I'm diving into deep study on this so if you have some input for me... the sooner the better. :-) :-(
Thanks for all you do.
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SB: Not sure what you want me to read, exactly. I've read your post, featured there, and ur page. I've seen other vids, delving into the same topic. Yes, the believers/
ME: Hmmmm. My interest is not philosophical but physical, physical in the
sense of force, weight, power. Neither 5 millions Israeli Zionists...
nor all the $$$ of their backers, which I think is huge... even begins
to explain to me how 100% of the US congress could vote for the
slaughter of Palestine this summer. A factor, yes, but an explanation,
no. But 50-100 million US Voters, the Christian Zionists... YES, THAT
WOULD DO IT. No? If YES, then THERE WILL BE NO PEACE FOR PALESTINE
UNTIL WE SOLVE THE CHRISTIAN ZIONIST PROBLEM. I'm totally willing to see
this assesment is wrong, but if it is correct... it needs to become
central in activist thinking and efforts, and not the occasional
peripheral that I see... no?
SB: Zionism has been deceptive, playing the religious fanatics. I don't
know what you mean by "central", or even activist.. or "the problem"
per-se that must be solved. We need to broaden more and more people's
understanding to facts of actual history, not further the storyline
agenda. . . The only thing that comes to mind to me, really, at this
moment is: "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking
we used when we created them." -- Albert Einstein
ME: I'm glad for your thoughts, but I we seem to be two trains passing in
the night on this one. We can't solve problems if we don't have a
correct diagnosis. The understanding I'm now finding correct is that
not Jewish Zionism, Jewish propaganda, ignorance of the Nakba... etc...
are key. Important, but not 20% of the answer... not if there are 80
million fanatic Americans dying for the cleansing of Palestine, tearing
down the Dome of the Rock and replacing it with the Temple... to bring
on Armageddon for the rest of us and Heaven for themselves. 80 million
rabid, insane votors... THIS explains the 66 years of policy insanity to
me... nothing else has... but this does. No?
SB: Well I agree with you, 80-100 Million evangelicals is a huge force, indeed.
ME: As I say, I am grateful for your comments. I'm not only willing,
but EAGER to see if this new 'centrality' for me of the Christian
Zionists is incorrect because I have no time to waste. WE have no time
to waste. But I've been deeply aware for years and years that 'it just
didn't add up' that 100% of the US congress could do what they are
doing... let alone 66 years of insane us policy. NOW IT MAKES SENSE.
200+ YEARS OF INSANE, PSYCHOTIC, EXPANDING CHR'STIAN ZIONISM... 80
MILLION IN THE US... NOW IT MAKES SENSE. IF this is true, IF this is
correct... I really think we need to turn and face that THIS is the army
slaughtering Palestine... the IDF, Netanyahu, jewish Zionism... are
almost irrelevant, almost a distraction.This
army of 80 million is the one we need to defeat. I'm desperate to run
this to ground. If you have resources to read or dialog with I'd sure
be grateful.
SB: The religious story-lines, still only feed the geopolitical agenda for
World Dominance. I see it as the same forces that got us into all the
other World Wars: the Fourth Reich in bed with the bankers, and
multinational corporations.
SB: I agree with you to some extent,. . .I just don't want to fight,
physically with my energy, with anyone, but stand against Zionism.
ME: Until this week I would have agreed with you. Even now, I concur
that there is an unholy alliance, but now I think: take away the
bankers, multinationals.
.. and Palestine Genocide still happens; but stop the chr'stian zionists... it stops. No?
SB: actually no, the Bankers will always find a way to pin Belief vs Belief, imho
SB: So,... educating the evangelicals is as important as educating the
Jewish zionists. We've all been 'had' and manipulated. Humans need to
find their way back to their humanity and compassion. . . . underneath
all those 'religious beliefs'. . . .
ME: This is our first dialog, you and I. I am VERY intense, NOT because I
want to win a argument or win a point. NEVER! I want to reach a solid
understanding AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. The force I believe in with all my
being is the one that Gandhi believed in - Truth Force. That's where my
intensity comes from. Pls never worry if we agree or disagree. I
don't care! Getting to the Truth of a crucial situation is what I care
about. Hugs.
ME: To your last comment: I don't know what impact on strategy should
result from figuring the chr'stian zionist army hoard into the equation
centrally. Educating them, ignoring them and raising an army of sane
folks (which is sort of what 'we' have been trying to do), other??? I
don't know. But I AM SURE it is crucial to understand what is going on
clearly and accurately... as the basis for how we direct our scarce
resources. This chr'n zionism is really eathshakingly important in my
view... so far. As to your other comment: Humans need to find their way
back to their humanity and compassion. . . . underneath all those
'religious beliefs'. . . .. I don't know if you and I corresponded when
my 'name' was still Start Loving? I had to back away from that when I
was spending so much time in the 'system' fighting my cancer for so long
starting 2.5 years ago. "Start Loving" wasn't my 'name' because I
thought it cute, but because becoming Loving, making our Humanity, our
Compassion CENTRAL TO OUR BEING... is the only possible way to prevent
our final, near certain, plunge off the existential cliff we are so
desperately intent on as a 2014 species. Yes, yes, yes. I think the
only way to do that is to individually be burning so white-hot with the
DOING of that compassion... that it just might cause others to catch
fire fast enough... to be in time. BTW, no offense intended to anyone, I
detest all of the organized religions... cuz they have, are, moving us
in exactly the opposite direction.
SB: No sane, rational human, in touch with their humanity, and armed with the truth would ever condone any of the murdering or colonization that is going on in the name of 'ISMs', the hate is all taught. hugs
ME: Wonderfully said. I posted our dialog, anonymously, at the bottom of the post on my blog linked to above.
SB: No sane, rational human, in touch with their humanity, and armed with the truth would ever condone any of the murdering or colonization that is going on in the name of 'ISMs', the hate is all taught. hugs
ME: Wonderfully said. I posted our dialog, anonymously, at the bottom of the post on my blog linked to above.