Jesus life was hell, and heaven, Agony, and joy. Mine too. Aug 30

 

Ms Susan, the Truck Stop owner, had two wonderful stories.

 in addition to what's mentioned in the video here, at one point  Susan said have a happy journey, to which I replied, in this world of suffering I don't want to be happy. I want instead to be joyful by trying to make it better. She wasn't offended by what I said, at the time she didn't want to hear it, maybe she'll be able to think about it later.

Instead of a society resting on coercion, exploitation, and inequality, Jesus desired to found a society resting on love, service, and equality. These new principles....

Instead of a society resting on coercion, exploitation, and inequality, Jesus desired to found a society resting on love, service, and equality. These new principles.... were so much the essence of his character and of his view of life, that he lived them out spontaneously and taught them in everything that he touched in his conversations or public addresses. God is a father; men are neighbors and brothers; let them act accordingly. Let them love, and then life will be true and good. Let them seek the kingdom, and all things will follow. Under no circumstance let them suffer fellowship to be permanently disrupted. If an individual or a class was outside of fraternal relations, he set himself to heal the breach. The kingdom of God is the true human society; the ethics of Jesus taught the true social conduct which would create the true society. This would be Christ’s test for any custom, law, or institution: does it draw men together or divide them?

The fundamental virtue in the ethics of Jesus was love, because love is the society-making quality. Human life originates in love. It is love that holds together the basal human organization, the family. The...

The fundamental virtue in the ethics of Jesus was love, because love is the society-making quality. Human life originates in love. It is love that holds together the basal human organization, the family. The... physical expression of all love and friendship is the desire to get together and be together. Love creates fellowship. In the measure in which love increases in any social organism, it will hold together without coercion. If physical coercion is constantly necessary, it is proof that the social organization has not evoked the power of human affection and fraternity. Hence when Jesus prepared men for the nobler social order of the kingdom of God, he tried to energize the faculty and habits of love and to stimulate the dormant faculty of devotion to the common good. Love with Jesus was not a flickering and wayward emotion, but the highest and most steadfast energy of a will bent on creating fellowship.

Jesus had realized the life of God in the soul of man and the life of man in the love of God. That was the real secret of his life, the well-spring of his purity, his compassion, his unwearied courage, his unquenchable idealism: he knew the Father. But if he had that greatest of all possessions, the

Jesus had realized the life of God in the soul of man and the life of man in the love of God. That was the real secret of his life, the well-spring of his purity, his compassion, his unwearied courage, his unquenchable idealism: he knew the Father. But if he had that greatest of all possessions, the... real key to the secret of life, it was his highest social duty to share it and help others to gain what he had. He had to teach men to live as children in the presence of their Father, and no longer as slaves cringing before a despot. He had to show them that the ordinary life of selfishness and hate and anxiety and chafing ambition and covetousness is no life at all, and that they must enter into a new world of love and solidarity and inward contentment. There was no service that he could render to men which would equal that. All other help lay in concentric circles about that redemption of the spirit and flowed out from it.

No comprehension of Jesus is even approximately true which fails to understand that the heart of his heart was religion. No man is a follower of Jesus in the full sense who has not through him entered into the same life with God. But on the other hand no man shares his life with God whose religion does not flow out, naturally and without effort, into all relations of his life and reconstructs everything that it touches. Whoever uncouples the religious and the social life has not understood Jesus. Whoever sets any bounds for the reconstructive power of the religious life over the social relations and institutions of men, to that extent denies the faith of the Master.

 If we want to understand the real aims of Jesus, we must watch him in his relation to his own times. He was not a timeless religious teacher, philosophizing vaguely on human generalities. He spoke for his own age, about concrete conditions, responding to the stirrings of the life that surged about him. We must follow him in his adjustment to the tendencies of the time, in his affinity for some men and his repulsion of others. That is the method by which we classify and locate a modern thinker or statesman.

Why do we find it understandable when someone dies seeking happiness and pleasure, but unimaginable when they die for the joy of serving? Because our culture trains us for the former, and terrifies us of the latter. That's why.

Social Gospel, rauschenbusch, on the Supreme Joy.

"Our duty to the Kingdom of God [Creating it on Earth] is on a higher level than all other duties. To aid it is the supreme joy. To have failed it by our weakness, to have hampered it by our ignorance, to have resisted its prophets, to have contradicted its truths, to have denied it in time of danger, to have betrayed it for thirty pieces of silver, — this is the most poignant con- sciousness of sin. The social gospel opens our eyes to the ways in which religious men do all these things. It plunges us in a new baptism of repentance..... 

What I am concluding is that I don't want my life. What...

What I am concluding, this conscious competence is only coming within the last day or so, is that I don't want my life. What... a pitiful little thing. And now I am carefully catching myself when I experience it as my life. Because it is bad? Because it feels inferior

the [Kingdom of God] in the sense in which Jesus and his audiences understood it almost completely passed out of Christian thought as soon as Christianity passed from the Jewish people and found its spiritual home within the great Graeco-Roman w^orld. The historical basis for the idea....

the [Kingdom of God] in the sense in which Jesus and his audiences understood it almost completely passed out of Christian thought as soon as Christianity passed from the Jewish people and found its spiritual home within the great Graeco-Roman w^orld. The historical basis for the idea was wanting there. The phrase was taken along, just as an emigrant will carry a water-jar with him ; but the water from the well of Bethlehem evaporated and it was now used to dip water from the wells of Ephesus or from the Nile and Tiber. The Greek world cherished no such national religious hope as the prophets had ingrained in Jewish thought on the other hand it was intensely interested in the future life for the individual, and in the ascetic triumph over flesh and matter. Thus the idea which had been the centre of Christ's thought was not at all the centre of the Church's thought, and even the comprehension of his meaning was lost and overlaid. Only some remnants of it persisted in the millennial hope and in the organic conception of the Church, The historical study of our own d

LOVING SOUL FOUR JOY 1. 4 Yourself 2. 4 The other 3. 4 Their circle 4. 4 The world

Loving cubed the Supreme Human Experience in all circumstances?

1. Intrinsically the Supreme feeling
2. Best chance to save another
3. Best chance to protect their circle
4. Best chance to help the world

Video log. This is what Jesus, Confucius, Buddha, Sorokin, Tolstoy were onto.

The three segments are here. If anything happens to me this is what I had to say. If I'm given more time which seems likely I will be writing much more about this. Don't say I didn't share.

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***** Completed, enough. 1/19/20. The cure for cancer buried in a minefield. Reader's guide, The Ways and Power of Love, Sorokin.

The subtitle of this post was and still is, reader's guide to this book which can be a Minefield in which the cure to cancer is to be found.

Well, it is late January 2020, almost. Probably some additional updates will occur but this is sufficient for the one in a million, the two in a Million, dying to be part of Salvation, part of Maybe saving a soul from needless suffering in this world oh, and maybe even a small group.

Possibly the most hopeful book ever written integrating, standing on the shoulders, of hundreds of great Souls throughout history.
Written by an individual of extraordinary intellect, not a heroic Genius of the Soul, no discredit to him. So there is a deadly blindness that must be negotiated by the reader.

• The most brilliant relentless scholar of maps attempting to Pilot the plane.
• The most gifted assembler of tools attempting to Sculpt flowers.
• A passionate healer of the nervous system writing 70 years ago there for without the benefit of current science.
• Like all except Cheese's, Heaven itself, the optimal Human Experience, is the joy that only comes from loving propagating loving, he seems to miss as well. There really is no hope for anyone or any group unless this is true.
• Also he seems to miss that we are born loving creatures, we are born of the super-conscious, the million brain. Surprising but he doesn't seem to grasp this. It is a matter of protecting what we are or reigniting it.
• And of profound importance he seems to not understand at all nor almost anyone he studies understands, it is said that fish are the last to discover water, that the optimal motivator is Joy from loving to propagate loving. That is the simplest road back to our nature is to reconnect us with that joy and the rest happens. His page after page after page after page of the techniques used by others are more likely to be detour than road to destination. We are creatures of head, flesh, and soul, superconscious he calls soul. What is in-charge grows, when head and flesh are in charge they starve soul to death because they have no use for it and only fear. When soul is in charge it exercises all three. Empowering the soul is really as simple as understanding the difference between joy and pleasure, and going for more and more and more and more of that. It is that simple. But we lack examples and words.
• What would fetishizing eating look like? Hearing? Seeing? The vast majority of heroic altruist cited by Sorokin strike James as doing this. The point is not to criticize these great Heroes. Point is to see the error that may have helped cause so few emulators.
• Sorokin is called to levels of detail and thoroughness in his subjects that would crush most authors and Scholars. But they can and do Crush readers that are not careful. Most other than detailed Scholars will need to carefully choose which sections of this book to skim or bypass all together so that the big issues, big takeaways, can be embraced and not lost.
• Brilliantly, rightly, usefully Sorokin gives love five Dimensions two of which are Purity and wisdom as I recall. And yet in his Avalanche of helpful examples he does little to help us differentiate between those that are wise and pure and those that are not. Reader be careful. You must take responsibility for this.
• Echoing and emphasizing the point just made, on the one hand I am amazed at how I am being persuaded that early in early religious communities a tremendous amount of movement from head and flesh in charge to the soul in charge took place. But I simply share that also I am almost revolted by what strikes me as pathology, sickness, in some of those that early on became Saints as Sorokin understands them, regardless of what religion they maybe from. I think he would have served us much better had he been much more discriminating. Or if he helped us with appropriate caution. I'm thinking that he is a bit smitten with such religious activities  and therefore biased toward them. Approximately halfway through the book James is right now, he has read it at least once before, in a portion where Sorokin is going on and on and on about the painful conversions to Soul in charge of many ancient Saints. And I find it very troubling that night of the Saints North Sorokin seem to be concerned with the degree to which This seems to be really a seeking of self-pleasure rather than a seeking of becoming a greater hope for the world. The latter being just another form of selfish lust, head and flesh, rather than loving to propagate loving, the work of the Soul But with this clearly in my mind I find all portions of the book very helpful none the less. Update. I'm into the details of the various monastic orders of all religions. Years ago when I first read this book I found these really very perverted not in a sexual way. And again I'm finding the same. Really sick. It struck me then and it strikes me now, that if the founders were great Heroes hose loving they did not go through such organizations. Very troubling.
• 1. 12. 20. Okay. Again. Sorokin and most of the heroes he quotes from from the middle of the book on, has two deadly blind spots. One. Somehow they conclude that one. The only approach is to attack the desires of the head and flesh. 2. Set the ideal is to get rid of those negatives. What the f***? This is not how human beings work. This is not how the soul or the head and flesh work! We are tle illogical. Goal seeking Particularly positive goals. Did none of them realize that there was a preferable way of being to the tyranny of head and Flash?
• 1.12.20 Sorokin, after seemingly admiring and extolling the perverse masochism of individual after individual after individual honestly puts forth many if not most if not almost all cases this is ineffective and self destructive.
• 1.15.20 major evolution of James thinking On the monastic practices. https://www.startloving.org/2020/01/james-lifelong-revulsion-distrust-of.html
• 1.16.20 back to revulsion, after yesterday's comment immediately above. And respect. The substantial degrees these monasteries and their practices approach what is needed, training camp for the would-be Heroic soul in charge. A training camp for the would-be Olympic athletes of Loving. Nothing revolting in that. But somewhere between sad and perverted if the Olympic Training Camp rather than tying itself directly to certain types of performance Place something in between, being pleasing to God, meeting the rules of God, MTG the rules of the camp, the training camp. Submitting totally in blindly to the coach... Such extraordinary room for abuse is created in this although Maybe In some rare instances it would be the best in terms of producing the desired performance in most cases it would dilute what ultimately was desired. And what should be desired is the Soul joyfully in charge and completely free of control and interference by the head and fleshwhich it cherishes but does not submit to.
• 1.19.20. Some final comments, for now. Baby Einstein early on found major flaws in the theory of Newton. But if so he may well have held on to Newton until he could fully grasp something Beyond. We're James Sorokin has done invaluable work for us the most valuable the James has yet found.

1. Item. but if so he may well have held onto Newton until he could fully grass something beyond. For James sore open has done invaluable work for us the most valuable the changes yet found.
2. Item. Way more than any other work that change knows he has shown what all of the great religious thinker is were pointing towards, the Supra conscience, what James understands to be the soul, now fairly well documented as the Olympics system, the mom alien brain.
3. It must be remembered that this book was published in 1952? The reader today has the benefits of 70 years of crucial history Sorokin did not. And 70 years of science particularly applicable to the delineation of the limbic system, the mammalian brain, the soul.
4. Spoiler alert, sort of. James tends to find so appalling what he mistook as Sorokin's passionate embrace of monastic practices that to James seemed so perverted, that it distanced James from fully digesting what Sorokin was really offering us, when James first read this book 15 years ago or so. This was a terrible mistake. And in the final conclusions of the book discount that any of this Embrace was any sort of a fetish for Sorokin. Maybe as a great teacher He felt he needed to enable us to go through what he went through To come out on the other side and make the best informed conclusions..... 
5. And if we honor and intelligently profit from this contribution by Sorokin what then? What if Sorokin had the benefit is being alive today 70 years later, what might he see and embrace? A. That the limbic system is the super-conscious as he calls it, the soul as James calls it. B. Is that the universal enemy is not disease and such things but tribal love The handmaiden of which is hatred. That the joyful war is against that. See. That at the time of Sorokin writing, at the time of Jesus and Buddha, and now, the prize every breath Is not saving Humanity although that would be nice now too late, not even saving another individual, but they personal experience joy of the attempt, of being Creator, loving Creator, being unified with that Force, the conduit for that Force. Later will this last section b error corrected hopefully.
6.  if for whatever reason you try this book and find yourself discourage or pushed away or disinterested and ready to disconnect one strong suggestion. Go to the conclusions in the Final Chapter.

But this wonderful man Sorokin clearly is blind to several things as almost all the saints have been. The fish is the last to discover water. The experiecial  supremacy in all situations of being loving propagating loving is preferable. It is what the enlightened are greedy for. And when this greed takes over problem solving figures out how to get it even though it if it takes a long time and a lot of personal changes. 

Many of them act as though, yet seem to not recognize in themselves, that they have found being loving propagating loving Feels superior to every experience available through the body and the head. This is certainly the experience of James.

This extraordinary intellect and Great Soul has assembled for those who would be loving propagating loving, a tremendous tool kit, but it can literally Crush the reader it is so vast and with such shortcomings at various crucial points, that care must be taken to avoid that.
Kreator willing, such a brief guide, map, will be available in late January 2020 here.

1.11.20 update.

A. As James continues to study this book he constantly Updates this particular post so please consider checking it regularly especially if you are reading or planning to read the book.

B. It may well be this is post is turning into the reader's guide to that James mentions. He is already feeling that for the serious Reeder it is almost sufficient.

2. 14. 20. And now an additional substantial reservation. The highly-regarded Theologian Paul tillich says, institutions are inherently evil. My attention was drawn to this by the writings of our greatest moral and intellectual prophet in the United States in the world, Chris hedges. You can easily research his background and works to assess what I have just said here. I was and M greatly enlightened and empowered by the extreme regard, respect, that Sorokin has for the well-intended monastic monastic movements in all religions. And the understanding that I have derived from that is that to empower the part of my nervous system that is my soul, my limbic system, what Sorokin calls the Supra conscious so brilliantly, to empower that under any circumstances but especially in a culture that worships head and flesh in charge, requires a daily expert regimen, an exercise regimen of brilliant design. It is scientifically indisputable that the parts of our nervous system that we use grow and the parts that we do not use a trophy. An Olympic athlete is training their nervous system every bit as much as they're training their muscular tissue. But I cannot agree, I must now strongly disagree with the notion that monastic organizations even the best intended can be trusted. I must not allow anyone to tell me what my eyes are communicating to the rest of my nervous system. I can listen to opinions but I must Reserve that judgment for myself. I cannot allow anything to get between my Supra conscious and the rest of me but that is exactly what almost always the best intended even religious organizations do. Institutions are inherently evil said tillich. Power corrupts and organizations have power and they corrupt those at the head and those Within. So in this regard I deeply thank Sorokin for a tuning me to the tremendous regimens that must be administered every day, but I must take the responsibility of doing that myself and not become intoxicated with some group that imposes it on me in any way.

The terminal failure of the great moral Sages was Blindness to what they lived: Loving for Joy is always the ultimate experience.

It has been said that fish are the last ones to discover water...

But even in the material hell unfolding for all it is not too late for the self to have that Joy and thereby to show others that it is possible. This is the work that is needed. It is the only work that could have saved us all, but it can still save the one, or the two. Let's get on with it.

Correction: Loving is not the ultimately rewarding experience. Loving to make the world more loving is.

A pleasure based life can never ever be sustainable. A joy based life can never be unsustainable. Impossible.

The Law of Life: whoever achieved the most intense Joy with the least stuff is the winner.

Loving is always the MOST JOYFUL, HEAVENLY, PERSONAL CHOICE. Is this correct? James is attempting...

Loving is always the MOST JOYFUL, HEAVENLY, PERSONAL CHOICE. Is this correct? James is attempting to... use his life right now to find out. The sole test? Does it maximize his Joy? Therefore would it maximize the joy of others. Testing that this is what Jesus and the others were onto.

Jesus: you want Heaven, infinite Joy? Be loving. That's it.

The life of virtue is heaven. Heaven, here's the life of virtue. The end. Jesus.

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